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Is Teaching Creation Child Abuse?

 

Boup5YcCcAEX7PQAn article in Creation Ministries International’s Prayer News (April 2014) caught my eye. It was entitled: “ ‘Teaching creation is child abuse’? A response to rabid atheist claims.” In this well-written article, Gary Bates exposed their tactics and answered their unscientific claims.

Teaching creationism has been called “child abuse” because it is withholding information from children. However, nothing could be further from the truth. Creationists like Bates and those of us at AOI, do not support withholding information about evolution from children. Rather, we advocate teaching them the whole story, helping them to really understand both the scientific method and the evolution model and teaching them to recognize the underlying presuppositions and philosophical implications of the origins debate.  We want students to learn to think critically, to ask good questions, to evaluate data, and to differentiate between facts and assumptions.

We advocate teaching students to distinguish between operational (experimental) science and historical science, and to learn to recognize what type of science is needed for various types of questions. We encourage them to test competing models, to examine the strengths (and weaknesses) of each, and to evaluate how they fit with real, objective evidence. In addition, we encourage them to research and think deeply about the logical and historical consequences of adopting each viewpoint.

It is not creationists, but evolutionists who withhold information from students. From preschool to university, they are taught a one-sided, biased evolutionary worldview. They are not given the opportunity to examine anything else, or even to hear about the weaknesses of the evolution model. God has effectively been banned from the classroom under the guise of “neutrality,” which is not really neutral at all. If anything is intellectual child abuse, this one-sided, biased approach would seem to qualify.

One has to wonder: if teaching creationism is seen as “child abuse,” how long will it be before teaching about God, even at home, will be labeled as such? You think it couldn’t happen? Open your eyes. Think again. In the communist Russia not so long ago, teaching children about God was strictly forbidden and could result in fines, punishment, and removal of children from the home. In some countries today, you can be killed for teaching the Bible to children. We need to wake up and turn the tide, taking a firm stand on the truth of Scripture; teaching children to be wise, discerning, and bold; speaking the truth in love to a lost and confused generation.

(For more information on this topic, check out Creation Ministries International – creation.com.)

 

Mary Jo Nutting

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Learn Through Experience

 

There is something spectacular about getting to live what you are learning. I didn’t think much about that until the years I spent working at a Christian Living History Camp in California. Each day as my fellow guides and I stepped into costume and into character, we experienced both history and ministry from a firsthand perspective. And that experience wasn’t limited to ourselves – we were privileged to provide countless 4th grade campers and their parents with that same unique opportunity.

Panning for GoldWe were blessed to watch as campers, who had been learning about the California Gold Rush for months, were able to practically live history with us. We got to watch their excitement at finding gold in the river, and their disappointment when they realized that it truly wasn’t an easy task. We encouraged them to think outside of their normal lives and consider what the lives of California miners were like. And best of all, we got to do all this away from their “comfort zone,” which for many of them consisted mostly of indoor activities, cement, video games, and comfort drawn from the fact that they knew the nearest Starbucks was less than five minutes away (yes, we definitely drew the parents out of their comfort zones as well as the kids!). In fact, the crux of our ministry at Rock-N-Water was, and is, founded on the basis of getting kids (and parents) out into creation….experiencing God through adventures in His creation, that through witnessing firsthand what He has made, they might see Him more clearly.

Yellowstone 1My experience at Rock-N-Water Christian camp has laid the foundation for me to be very excited about the camping ministry we have and are continuing to develop here at AOI. Our summer camps and tours offer the opportunity for youth, families, kids, and everyone in between to get out and experience Gods creation while being strengthened in their faith through amazing, and even life-changing creation science teaching. We are excited to be able to provide the chance to get out and see what God has made, as well as to provide the background pieces of scientific information that will allow people to see the beauty of creation with new eyes.

While this information is powerful and impactful in any setting, I personally feel strongly that there is a unique power and impact when it’s coupled with the chance to observe the evidence of the beauty and majesty of God’s creation.

As guests of AOI’s summer adventures “discover creation,” my prayer (along with all of us at AOI) is that they will be spurred on to “worship the Creator” who has divinely orchestrated a world scarred by catastrophe brought on by sin to still exhibit a breathtaking display of beauty.

It’s not too late to register for AOI’s summer Creation Adventures. Take a look and give us a call. We pray that you and your family are able to take advantage of this opportunity, and that you are mightily blessed!

 

Aimee Mariani

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Microscopic Structure of Tears

 

hI was alerted to a photographic study, which I managed to find on the web, regarding the microscopic structure of dried human tears. Rose-Lynn Fisher, the photographer, wondered if various tear types dry into different patterns. It appears at first glance that tears of joy yield a different pattern from tears from onions, tears from grief, or just normal tears which continually lubricate the eye.

Although I had never considered that one teardrop might differ from another, it does make some sense. After all, tears released during extreme grief would likely contain different hormones that the body releases compared to those released during times of great joy. If someone gives you an unexpected check for $1000 or when you see a couple getting married, “joy” hormones could be released which would affect the chemical makeup of the tear. Hence, the different chemical properties would cause a different crystalline structure upon drying.

Although the study at this point is quite interesting, I would not say it is in any way conclusive and even Fisher makes no claims. Various temperatures of drying, humidity, etc. could make a difference on the crystalline structure. However, this is how scientific investigation begins. It involves an idea, getting preliminary results, refining the process, and then doing serious controlled investigation. If the results can be shown to be consistent, then perhaps it could later find its way into medical research in determining the state of a person, which might contribute to medical issues, diagnosis, and remedies.

I wonder what someone would think if they accidentally wandered into the research lab and noticed various individuals crying with joy while others are sobbing from deep emotional turmoil, and still others choking on fresh peeled onions.

For more information and various pictures see: The Microscopic Structures of Dried Human Tears from Smithsonian.com

 

Dave Nutting

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Ancient walk on the beach

 

Beach scene in Costa RicaPeople have asked me about the reports of footprints of a human ancestor, which were uncovered by recent tides, being found in England. An article came out a couple of weeks ago in The Telegraph (April 21, 2014)  in regards to some tracks that were preserved in soft sedimentary rock. It referenced an older article (Feb, 7, 2014) by Richard Gray, a science correspondent, entitled 900,000 year old footprints of earliest northern Europeans discovered. Researchers think the tracks may have belonged to primitive human ancestors referred to as Homo antecessor, or “Pioneer Man.”

Sure enough, the tracks look good. In fact, they look too good to support any evolutionary interpretation. Rather than an “ancestor of humans,” they certainly look like modern human tracks.  Of the 49 tracks, not only do 29 show an arch, but many show clear outlines of the foot, and one shows a detailed toe print. All of this makes the tracks look like modern human tracks. Therefore the only “ancestral to humans” I get out of it is not “ape-like creatures,” but perhaps more like great, great, great, uncle Bill.   (For more information on this discovery, see Dr. Elizabeth Mitchell’s article, Ancient Footprints Place Humans in England Early In the Ice Age,  published February 18, 2014.

In 2009, ICR also reported on other tracks that were supposedly even older (1.5 million) that also looked like modern human tracks. (See Ancient Human Footprints Look Modern by Brian Thomas, M.S.)

The point in all of this (especially in this set of 49 footprints of adults and children), is that our great, great, great, grand families, just like families today, liked to take walks as a family on the beach. The tracks likely belonged to perfectly human great, great, grand children of Noah. Also, those millions of years didn’t exist.

 

Dave Nutting

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All in the family! Part 2

 

Research on the Neanderthal genome has revealed modern humans and Neanderthals could interbreed with one another.  This means Neanderthals and modern humans are all of the same kind, or family. In other words, Neanderthals are just a variation of humans.

The following is from an article on the New Scientist website entitled, “Breeding with Neanderthals helped humans go global,” by Michael Marshall.

“The publication of the Neanderthal genome last year offered proof that Homo sapiens bred with  Neanderthals after leaving Africa. There is also evidence that suggests they enjoyed intimate relations with other hominins including the Denisovans, a species identified last year from a Siberian fossil.”

Tourists at the entrance to Denisova Cave, Russia from the Wikimedia Commons.

Tourists at the entrance to Denisova Cave, Russia from the Wikimedia Commons.

But another variation of humans was discovered fairly recently, the Denisovans.  Their genome reveals they were related to the Neanderthals.  But there is more to the plot.  The Denisovans also interbred with another mysterious variation of humans.

The following quotes are from another article by Michael Marshall, “Mystery human species emerges from Denisovan genome.”

“The genome shows that Denisovans were cousins of the Neanderthals – this much was already known. ”

“The new hominin has left its traces in the genome of a Denisovan, an extinct hominin known to exist from a finger bone and two teeth found in a Siberian cave. Nobody knows what Denisovans looked like because there are so few fossils. But geneticists have managed to sequence their entire genome to a high degree of accuracy.”

“The best explanation is that the Denisovans interbred with an unidentified species, and picked up some of their DNA. Or as Reich puts it: “Denisovans harbour ancestry from an unknown archaic population, unrelated to Neanderthals.”  

A finger bone and two teeth are not a lot of evidence.  But with the evidence they do have, the information seems to show that these hominins were all in the same family or kind.  There also seems to be a variation within this human family.  This is no surprise to Scripture.

Again, the Bible can shed light on the evidence.

As we study Scripture, God is a God of unlimited knowledge and intelligence capable of making and creating complex creatures.   Scientists are now beginning to see the incredible complexity of life.  Also, as we examine Scripture and science, there is the ability in the genome for great variety.  In Genesis chapter ten, we have the division of the nations as people groups that spread throughout the world.

Genesis 10:5  – By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.

Genesis 10:32 - These are the families of the sons of Noah, after their generations, in their nations: and by these were the nations divided in the earth after the flood.

With the separation of nations, certain human characteristics would be more pronounced or prevalent in the dispersed people groups.  Thus giving us the drastic variations of humans we see today, and it was possibly even greater in the past.  As time past from the division of the nations, or even from Adam, some of these people groups have been lost due to wars (genocide), harsh living conditions, diseases, natural disasters, interbreeding with other people groups, etc.

The following is from the same article mentioned above, “Mystery human species emerges from Denisovan genome.”

“Whoever the mystery people were, they are a reminder that inbreeding was rife in human evolution.”

Interbreeding within the human kind and having more little humans is not Darwinian evolution (macro-evolution), but instead micro-evolution or variation within a kind.  This concept is both Scriptural and scientific, but not evidence for macro-evolution.

Going back to the articles, the finding of a wide variety of humans is no surprise.  Some of the humans had big jaws while some had small jaws, some had big skulls and some had small ones, some ate with big teeth and others without, some people had sloping foreheads and big eyebrow ridges and others had straight or protruding foreheads.  Some individuals were very big, and others were small.  Some people even had big noses whiles others had small ones (unfortunate).

Just because an individual has a flat forehead, larger eyebrow ridges, big jaw and teeth, or even a big nose does not mean that he or she is less human or more primitive!  These are some of the variations God has programmed into the human genome.

There are no surprises in the fossil record.  They fit perfectly with what we read in Genesis.  It’s all in the family!

 

Rich Stepanek

All in the Family! Part 1

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All in the family! Part 1

 

DmanisiA discovery of five skulls from Dmanisi, Georgia, has added a new twist to the story of human evolution. They believe there may not have been many different evolutionary Homo species, but just one species consisting of a huge variation within that species.

“The five skulls found at Dmanisi do not seem to go together, having cranial capacities varying from 546 to 730 cubic centimeters and a constellation of features evolutionists typically assign to three different species of early Homo—Homo erectus, Homo habilis, and Homo rudolfensis.“  From the article, Does the Dmanisi discovery Demonstrate We Are All One Family.

“This would lump the various human species that have been named during early Homo history into a single evolving species connecting Homo habilis to the Dmanisi humans, and forward in time to Homo erectus as it expanded across Eurasia. “We think that many African fossils can be lumped in this category and aligned with the single-lineage hypothesis,” Lordkipanidze says.” From the article, Dmanisi Human: Skull from Georgia Implies All Early Homo Species were One.

So some researches believe that Homo habilis, Homo erectus, Homo rudolfensis, and the Dmanisi fossils could all just be variations of the same species.

Let us review of what they found.

Dmanisi skullIn 1991, paleontologists began to unearth fragments of skulls, miscellaneous human and animal bones, and stone tools. In 2000, researchers first found a complete lower jaw, then five years later they discovered the cranium they believe fit that jaw.  In the Dmanisi cave, they found the bones scattered and evidence of bite marks on the bones. One conclusion was that this was a carnivorous beast’s den, into which the victims were dragged.

“The team found clearly human skeleton parts, along with five skulls or partial skulls. Even though skull 5 has several key features resembling an ape, not a human, the Science study authors wrote, “Skull 5 is probably associated with the postcranial [bones located below the head] elements of an adult individual with nearly modern human body proportions.” From the article, New ‘Human’ Fossil Borders on Fraud.

As I read and study the evidence, it appears that wild animals dragged their prey into the den and scattered the remains around. Some of the prey may have been human. Some of the skulls have ape characteristics and the skeletons have modern human characteristics. There is a possibility that some of the humans could have had diseases, deficiencies, or deformities, etc., which may lead to some of the strange skulls.  Eventually the cave was occupied by humans, which is evident from the stone tools.  The humans may have hunted and brought in some of the remains that were found, and later the cave collapsed preserving the remains.

Can the Bible shed some light onto this data? Yes it can! True knowledge, wisdom, and understanding starts with the fear of the LORD.

Proverbs 1:7 – The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Proverbs 9:10 – The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.

Scientists have limited knowledge, and their worldview interferes with the interpretation of the data.   So to fully understand the facts of these fossils, we must first start with a source of all knowledge.  This source is the God of the Bible, the Creator of all things …including science.

Turning to Genesis, God created and made everything in six days and so finding human remains alongside ape remains is not unexpected.  God also programmed in the DNA for creatures to reproduce after their own kind or family type.  For example, we have the dog family, cat family, or even the bacteria family.  Everything reproduces after their own kind or family type.  Dogs always stay dogs and bacteria always stay bacteria; this is observational science.  Organisms never change into completely different organisms (macroevolution).  Macroevolution has never been observed.

What most people have missed in Genesis is the phrase found in Genesis 1:22, “And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.”

And again in Genesis  1:28a, “And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish (fill) the earth, …”

To be fruitful, multiply, and fill the earth, creatures must have the ability to adapt to different environments.  God has created a very complex DNA system so creatures can adapt to their new environments. Scripture reveals that species will change to fill the earth, this is what we call microevolution or microadaptation, and what I like to say is variation within a kind.  This is Biblical and also scientific.  But at the same time, creatures are made with limitations and cannot change into a completely different kind or family type.

With this information in mind, let us review the data.  What they found are variations of apes, mixed with human bones.  Some of these variations of apes have probably gone extinct, so we will not see those types of apes alive today.  This is not a new concept, because variations in kinds are going extinct today.  We also observe a huge variation within the human kind, and some of these variations may have also ceased to exist.

Again it is all in the family!  We have the ape family and the human family, with a large range of variation within these families.  By studying Scripture, we can come to know the truth!

 

Richard Stepanek

All in the Family! Part 2

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The Ken Ham/Bill Nye Debate – Thoughts

Ham-Nye debate

In researching about both speakers, they have two very different worldviews, perspectives, and goals. Ken Ham has been very active sharing his perspective and worldview for practically all of his life. He started out teaching public school science in Australia, but eventually moved to the US to work with Creation ministries.

Bill Nye has been a popular science teacher for many years, and recently, he has been especially outspoken on what he perceives are the dangers of allowing the US to slip in our position and emphasis in science. He passionately shares how he feels creationism is unscientific, evolution is basically a proven fact, and how it is wrong to teach children these erroneous viewpoints about science. He says he wants people to understand what science is and that through science we can then better impact our world.[i]

He said that he did not want to come as a scientist or to just spout off science, but he wants to teach people that evolution is proven science and that it is not acceptable to believe or teach creation as a scientific model. He has said that “your world just becomes fantastically complicated when you don’t believe in evolution.”i

Many secular and atheist individuals have warned not to do debates with creationists, because that gives creationism a platform or an opening to try to spread their non-scientific views. They don’t even want to give creationism a platform, or an option, to be heard or thought of as science. One atheist even gave Bill Nye tips on debating Ken Ham. Ultimately, Nye took the debate to raise awareness that “we need them (your kids), we need scientifically literate voters and tax-payers.”[i]

Here is a challenge that I might offer: Giving students numerous models (scientific, philosophical or religious) that they have to study and search out will make students more skeptical, critical, and better informed about each side and about what is truly science, philosophy, and religion. So teaching Creation and Evolution will help students to be critical and skeptical in searching out truth and to not just believe one side.

In fact, Ken Ham takes an even less imposing strategy on education by saying that “while we are not in favor of mandating that creation be taught in public school science classes, we believe that, at the very least, instructors should have the academic freedom to bring up the problems with evolution.”[ii]

The debate’s focus was on this question: Is creation a viable model of origins in today’s modern scientific era? Both men were very cordial, kept to time, and played by the rules with very little mud-slinging. Out of all of Ken Ham’s presentations, I thought he did one of his clearest presentations yet. Albeit, there was still a lot of material that could possibly go over peoples’ heads …especially if they were not familiar with the Creation perspective. By using video testimonies, he made the case that there were real scientists that rejected evolutionary naturalism and favored Biblical Creation. Ken Ham also made a clear distinction between observational science and historical science.

Chess-BattleBill Nye was, as always, more entertaining and less staged than Ken Ham. But, Bill Nye did not make strong connections or explanations for the various scientific arguments that he used for evolutionary naturalism. I was surprised at many of the evidences that Bill Nye brought up, because many of those evidences have very consistent (or better) answers from a Creation perspective. In fact, Creation Ministries International wrote a response to the debate (http://creation.com/ham-nye-debate) and linked it to many articles where they explain the creation perspective for the evidences that Bill Nye used.

Coming from a creation perspective, Nye’s arguments are fairly weak and so I was surprised that he was not as researched and knowledgeable about the creation perspective. I think Bill Nye would be surprised at the level of scientific complexity and research that has been done by creationists and I would simply challenge him, or any other atheist or evolutionist, to honestly search out and understand the complete Creation Model. I also challenge all creationists to study and understand the entire Evolutionary/Naturalistic Model.

One of the biggest issues in regards to the Creation/Evolution debate is that both sides are very often ignorant of the other perspective. I think it is important to study BOTH and then consider which one makes more sense.  I think if students did that, they would be much more informed and scientifically literate.

Ultimately, I hope that Ken Ham and Bill Nye will continue dialoguing and corresponding. I think Bill Nye would be fascinated by the science incorporated in creation models. As this has been one of the most popular Creation/Evolution debates, I really appreciate Mary Jo Nutting’s reminder that “we really need to be praying for God to speak through Ken Ham (and all of us as well) to reach this generation with the truth. We also need to pray for God’s grace and compassion to shine through Ken and all of the other staff at AiG. Our desire is not for Bill Nye to look bad, but for the lies of evolution to be exposed and for Bill Nye and MANY others to come to the knowledge of the truth.” Ultimately, the crux of the matter is to share God’s Truth with others that they might be saved and that God would be glorified. I hope and pray that God might open Bill Nye’s eyes and heart so that he could be a tremendous tool in God’s hands for spreading His Truth!

You can watch the debate for free at http://debatelive.org/ for a limited time after the debate. There is a follow-up answers session featuring Ken Ham and Dr. Georgia Purdom on that website as well. Consider how you can use this debate to reach out to family, friends, or coworkers and to be able to share the gospel. Keep studying and Praise God for what He has done!

 

By Brian Mariani

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[i] Bill Nye: Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children, Big Think Video, Published August 23, 2012 on Youtube, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHbYJfwFgOU, accessed February 6, 2014.

[ii] Ken Ham, Ken Ham: Why I’m debating Bill Nye about Creationism, CNN, Belief Blog, http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2014/02/03/why-im-debating-the-science-guy-about-creationism/, accessed February 5, 2014.

Bacteria Shredding Insect Wings

Bacteria Shredding Article

Some interesting research published a few days ago holds a huge promise for reducing incidences of bacterial infection. Wings of dragonflies and the Cicadae are constructed with ultra-microscopic-sized (nano) spires which literally shred bacteria. To read about this go to: Germ-killing nanosurface opens new front in hygiene.

I always like to say that God has given us a vast array of things in nature for us to glean from in order to “invent” amazing technology that will help us mortal humans. That is exactly what is happening with this new discovery. Material emulating these insect’s technology is smooth to the touch and, if placed on door handles, will shred bacteria left from people’s hands.

Dragonfly

Dragonfly Image: Wikipedia Commons

Is it really logical to believe that this insect technology, or myriads of other technologies, we glean from in nature could have happened by accidents of evolution? They appear to be the product of our amazing Creator.

 

Dave Nutting

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In the Dark about Dark Matter

 

Russian anti-god posterAtheist argument: “How can you believe in a so-called-god when you can’t see him/she/it even through the best Hubble telescopes?”  Clear back in 1965, after their space launches, the Russian government posted anti-god posters meant to dissuade people from believing in God. The caption at the bottom of the poster (on the right) basically says, “The bright light of science has proven there is no God.”

So, the basic argument is, “If you can’t see God, He doesn’t exist.” Now let’s look at “modern science” and see if the same thinking is being applied.

Chet Brokaw’s Oct 30, 2013 Associated Press article entitled, Search for dark matter comes up empty so far, describes research taking place a mile underground to find traces of what scientists call “dark matter.” It is called that because you can’t see it or, even after this latest research, detect it.

So how do we know it is there? Good question! According to modern theories in astronomy, it has to be there. In fact, 25 percent of the entire universe should be made up of this dark matter, but right now it is just plain missing. Scientists themselves say they have “no clue” or are completely “in the dark” about this “ghost-like” dark matter. Others wonder if they should be looking for something entirely different.

The point is this: Even with the bright light of science looking as hard as it can, with its most sophisticated instrumentation, 25% of the universe (This amounts to 5 times the amount of observable matter!) is still missing – it can’t be seen. Yet scientists ardently believe it is there. That is a type of faith, isn’t it?

Keep in mind that the absence of proof does not mean there is no proof or that none will be found in the future. So scientists will continue to look even more diligently with even more sophisticated (and costly) instrumentation. Some hope they will find it to support the Big Bang Theory. Others think it will “prove God doesn’t exist” which is a very faulty logic anyhow. After all, many of the researchers have deep faith in God.

What about the argument that since the best Hubble telescopes haven’t revealed God, He can’t exist. Perhaps they are looking in the wrong fashion or direction. Keep in mind the Scripture says, “The heavens declare the glory of God!” Perhaps their search should then take them deep inside of the Bible or into their own heart.

The HUGE question is this: What would happen if the same scientists, who claim to be atheists because they can’t now see God, would spend their time vigorously searching for Him? The answer according to the Bible in Jeremiah 29:13 is “And you will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all your heart.

 

Dave Nutting

 

If you want to read an article about this dark matter, go to Dark Matter Experiment Has Detected Nothing, Researchers Say Proudly.

 

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Dinosaurs: Millions of Years or Only Thousands? Naturalistic/Evolutionary Perspective

 

TheAgeofDinosaursIntroduction:

Everyone today has heard that at one time, long ago, dinosaurs roamed our world. Dinosaurs were some of the largest land animals ever to live. Thousands of dinosaur fossils can be found throughout the fossil record. Soft Tissue has also been discovered in numerous examples now. Did dinosaurs have feathers? What is the Truth about dinosaurs? What were they like? When did they live?

 

Naturalistic/Evolutionary Answer:

Dinosaurs lived between 230 – 65 Millions years ago.[i] They evolved from smaller reptiles and many dinosaurs evolved into birds.[ii] There are approximately 700 species of dinosaurs, but some estimate that there are more to be found.[iii] Different types of dinosaurs including (but not limited to) theropods, sauropods, stegosaurs, ankylosaurs and eventually birds lived and evolved during the different periods of history such as the Triassic, Jurassic, and Cretaceous periods. Dinosaurs themselves went extinct probably due to a large meteor strike that changed the earth’s climate enough that there was poor air quality and not enough food for dinosaurs and so they died away. [iv] [v] This great extinction of the dinosaurs began the Cenozoic Era of history, in which we live today.[vi] Dinosaur fossils can be found because the dinosaurs were buried in volcanic ash or buried due to seasonal flooding.

King Georg & dragon 1Because dinosaurs lived so long ago, there is no way that they could have ever lived with humans, and there have never been human fossils found in the same layers with dinosaur fossils. All the species of dinosaurs would not have been able to fit on the ark even if Noah’s ark is true and dinosaurs were still around. They could in no way be mistaken for dragons, because they went extinct a long time ago as shown in the fossil record. Dragons are fantasy and make for good stories.[vii]

Since dinosaurs evolved into birds, there are some dinosaurs in the fossil record, similar to Archeaopteryx, that have feathers. In an article in Nature, Brian Switek reports that “palaeontologists have recognized more than 30 types of feathered dinosaur.” Switek continues to say that some scientists have found evidence of at least protofeathers on many dinosaurs and that they and “feathers seem to be an ancestral dinosaurian trait.” So all dinosaurs may have had either some form of protofeathers or feathers themselves, but “the trick will be finding specimens in the sorts of fine-grained sediments capable of preserving feather fossil.”[viii]

For the past 10 years, Mary Schweitzer has discovered numerous examples of soft tissue still preserved in dinosaur bones. The soft tissue within rock fossils that has been found shows that those specimens have been highly preserved through possibly some new process. In Barry Yeoman’s article describing Schweitzer’s journey of discovery, he writes “if the soft tissue can last 65 million years, Horner says, ‘there may be a lot of things out there that we’ve missed because of our assumption of how preservation works.’”[ix]

 

Check back tomorrow for the Creation Answer.  Thanks again for your constructive help.

 

By Brian Mariani

 

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[ii] Smithsonian: National Museum of Natural History. “Dinosaurs, Everything you wanted to know: Anatomy & Evolution.” http://paleobiology.si.edu/dinosaurs/info/everything/evo_1.html. Accessed November 4, 2012.

[iii] USGS. “How many types of dinosaurs are known?” Ronald J. Litwin, Robert E Weems, and Thomas R. Holtz, Jr. Last Modified May 17, 2001. http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/dinosaurs/types.html. Accessed November 4, 2012.

[iv] USGS. “Dinosaurs: Facts and Fiction” Ronald J. Litwin, Robert E Weems, and Thomas R. Holtz, Jr. Last Modified August 6, 2007. http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/dinosaurs/. Accessed November 4, 2012.

[v] PBS. “What Killed the Dinosaurs?” 2001. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/extinction/dinosaurs/. Accessed November 4, 2012.

[vi] Smithsonian: National Museum of Natural History. “Dinosaurs, Everything you wanted to know: What Is a Dinosaur?” http://paleobiology.si.edu/dinosaurs/info/everything/what_4.html. Accessed November 4, 2012.

[vii] USGS. “Did people and dinosaurs live at the same time?” Last Modified May 17, 2001. http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/dinosaurs/people.html. Accessed November 4, 2012.

[viii] Switek, Brian. “Rise of the feathered dinosaurs.” July 2, 2012. http://www.nature.com/news/rise-of-the-feathered-dinosaurs-1.10933. Accessed November 4, 2012.

[ix] Yeoman, Barry. “Schweitzer’s Dangerous Discovery.” Discover Magazine. Published online April 27, 2006. http://discovermagazine.com/2006/apr/dinosaur-dna. Accessed November 4, 2012.